Wednesday, October 26, 2011


John Cassidy has a good interview about his New Yorker piece on Keynes. The article is now available. 

(via Mark Thoma)

Cassidy uses the phrase "Carthaginian peace" in the context of discussing what Keynes would think about Greece. In Cassidy's opinion Keynes would argue for debt relief since he described the Treaty of Versailles as a Carthaginian Peace and it lead to the rise of fascism. (The beatings will continue until morale improves or until you elect a demagogic, genocidal monster as your leader.)

From the Wikipedia entry:
Carthaginian Peace can refer to two things: either (1) the peace imposed on Carthage by Rome in 146 BC, whereby the Romans systematically burned Carthage to the ground, or (2) the imposition of a very brutal 'peace' in general.
Origin

The term refers to the outcome of a series of wars between Rome and the Phoenician city of Carthage, known as the Punic Wars. The two empires fought three separate wars against each other, beginning in 264 BC and ending in 146 BC.

At the end of the Third Punic War, the Romans laid siege to Carthage. When they took the city, they killed most of the inhabitants, sold the rest into slavery, and destroyed the entire city. As Tacitus wrote in a different context, quoting or paraphrasing the Caledonian chieftain Calgacus, "they make a wasteland and call it peace". Some modern accounts say they plowed over the city and sowed the ground with salt, but this is not supported by ancient sources.[1]

By extension, the term "Carthaginian Peace" can refer to any brutal peace treaty demanding total subjugation of the defeated side. 
Modern Use

Modern use of the term is often extended to any peace settlement in which the peace terms are overly harsh and designed to perpetuate the inferiority of the loser. Thus many (the economist John Maynard Keynes among them[2]) deemed the Treaty of Versailles to be a "Carthaginian Peace." The Morgenthau Plan, which was dropped in favor of the Marshall Plan (1948–1952), might be described as a Carthaginian Peace, as it advocated the 'pastoralization' (de-industrialization) of Germany following her 1945 defeat in World War II.
General Lucius D. Clay, deputy to general Dwight D. Eisenhower who in 1945 was military governor of the U.S. occupation Zone in Germany, and who would go on to replace Eisenhower as governor and as commander in chief, U.S. Forces in Europe, would later remark regarding the occupation directive guiding his and General Eisenhower's actions in occupied Germany: "there was no doubt that JCS 1067 contemplated the Carthaginian peace which dominated our operations in Germany during the early months of occupation."[3]

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